National Book Award winner Sigrid Nunez’s latest novel (What Are You Going Through) and reporter Kate Murphy’s nonfiction book (You’re Not Listening) have a similar question at their center: How can we be better friends and listeners? Nunez and Murphy discuss empathy, connection, and how we can strengthen our relationships with one another.

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Kate Murphy, Sigrid Nunez, You're Not Listening: What You're Missing and Why It Matters, What Are You Going Through